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. they think it's cool to vote for the cool guy. no wonder they love obama. he turned the world of governance to high school. vote for "o" is vote for mr. popular. not that cold evil mr. meanie, mr. romney. if a message features miley as the messenger, the intended recipient is as deep as contact lens. maybe it will get the youth to vote for obama. unless "twilight' on. >> bob: isn't that hanna montana? >> greg: used to be. >> bob: i hate that show. barney. that's the other one. if i could have shot that dinosaur i would have shot him 100,000 times. >> greg: well, that is wrong. i think you owe barney an apology. >> greg: do you think having rich young self-satisfied ecocentric people telling you oh to vote or what to vote or what to do? >> dana: i have never been one to be star struck. certainly not by the crew that just ran through. >> greg: dierks bentley. >> dana: okay, if he told me to -- >> eric: vote for obama? >> dana: even that, i could not do that. >> greg: if he didn't drive you to the voting booth and tell you to vote for obama? >> dana: i'd pretend i would vote for obama. country
. the election has begun in the first swing state with early voting. and the obama campaign isn't letting up. >> my job is not to worry about those -- >> tonight, dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman-schultz on the democratic effort to get out the vote in iowa and beyond. >>> "mother jones" unearthed yet another lost romney tape from his bain years. >> bain capital is an investment partnership. >> i'll ask robert reich what mitt romney means when he says he's harvesting companies. >>> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> and the guy who has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to women has the nerve to call senator claire mccaskill unladylike. we'll bring you the latest on the todd akin disaster. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thank for watching. iowa kicked off the 2012 election in january. today it was the first state where people could cast their votes in person for the general election. the race is on. the race has been tight in iowa, but president obama has the momentum. the latest ten-day poll average from "real clea
>> i need you to go out and find someone that voted for barack obama and get them to vote for me, all right. >> romney's pitch comes as polling shows president obama has the advantage in nine battleground states including razor-thin leads in north carolina and nevada and a bigger lead in mitt romney's vacation destination, new hampshire. all of it comes with a new headline from politico. in the end, it's mitt. all of us making a first presidential debate, which is less than one week away now even more critical for the governor. let's bring in "news nation" panel. david godfrin, michael and steve daise, conservative radio talk show host. thanks to you for being with me on this friday. steve, let me start with you. these new poll numbers, the head-to-head showing the president now ahead in all three states, north carolina, nevada and new hampshire. new hampshire, of course, romney's home away from home where he has a vacation spot. governor romney's favorables continue to be underwater in all but north carolina now. combine these numbers with what we've seen all week, how worried a
important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on medicare by 19. in florida, 15. in virginia, 13. other polls have shown president obama's advantage on medicare has grown significantly since ryan joined the ticket. so let's go back to this again, trying to figure this out. he bought into a guy who was known primarily for this voucher plan, getting rid of medicare as we know it. basically go to a doctor and the bills are paid by medicare. you can't beat a system like that, joy ann, i don't think on this planet earth and have something paid for when you go to do it. there's nothing like it. >> and -- >> why would anybody want to change it? nobody would want to change it. >> chris, i think what's worse than that is they tried to be too cute with it. they said they're not going to touch anybody over 55. people over 55 understand their children are future seniors. it's not they're going to be
to obama. vote for me this time. so they're really trying to target those voters. as i heard you say earlier, on the press plane and in the crowd, the romney spinners are pushing back on the polls. they insist they're within the margin of error but they offer no proof of that. he's hoping for big crowdser more enthusiasm and hoping to open the gap here because as you know, he definitely needs ohio. >> ron allen following the campaign for us. ron, thank you. let's look at the map itself when it comes to ohio. there are less than a thousand hours until election day. is that sinking in? both candidates hitting the campaign trail. if ohio is really leaning toward the president, what does that mean for mitt romney and his potential path to victory? let's go to the latest nbc news battleground map and show you where things stand. last week we moved from toss-up to lean ohio. the president's lead, it went from 243 to 2770. what does this mean if you give him ohio? well, watch. so you give the president of ohio, he gets up to 261. he use now got four paths to victory. watch this number up he
breaker it could be thisear. , of btse casteforelection d. early voting favored barack obama over john mccain by 18 points. 58% to 40%. this year,7 states and washington, d.c., will have early in-person voting prior to e aiartingay. eavoting parcipaon at around 40% this year. two out of every five ballots will be filled out before november 6th in this election cycle. todais truly the beginning of the end of the presidential election. but one candidate is in much better pition to take advantage of t new voting thyn t wcall american democracy. here's a look at mitt romney's field offices in iowa. the romney camp pass 12 outposts across the hawkeye state. now take a look at president obama's operation. his field operation in iowa. thammp h6 these outpost offices. the president's campaign has a 5 1/2-1 advantage over mitt romney when it comes to operation in iowa. these field offices are the lifeblood of presidential campaigns. ths e aist thget t toote efforts and organize volunteers. today, "the new york times" ported from polling aces in iowa and found mostly outspoken obama supporters. >>
you poll of polls as we call it in ohio and florida. ohio likely voters 51% said they'd vote for obama. 44% for romney. and the poll of polls september 16th through the 24th in florida, 50% said they'd vote for the president, 45% for mitt romney. why do you think it is that mitt romney doesn't seem to be resonating in these critical states at least so far? >> well, i think he has three or four big challenges. one is that for a long period the obama campaign dramatically outspent romney in resiesly those states driving home their image of who romney is. the second is that the romney campaign is yet to find a thematic way of explaining itself and laying out in a clear crisp way the difference between romney and obama. and i think that frankly is a problem. and there's an ironic third problem. both these states have republican governors. both these governors have been doing the right things, the things mitt romney believes in. and the campaign doesn't seem to be able to pivot and say, you know, john kasich's doing the right stuff here in ohio and i want to take john kasich's model to wash
to get 243 electoral votes to romney's 191. with eight tossup states. obama win in ohio with its 18 electoral votes would put him at 261 electoral votes, that is just nine away from winning re-election. surprising exactly no one ohio has been a top focus for candidates. while governor romney logged 17 trips to the state this election cycle president obama is making his 13th visit this year alone. earlier this month the democratic ticket made clear just how much ohio means to them. >> if we win ohio, we win the election. >> if we win toledo, we will win ohio. and if we win ohio we'll win this election. >> john heilemann, there has been no shortage of love for the state of ohio this election cycle. president obama and mitt romney both speaking at 1:05 today. i wonder your take on the state it's interesting when you look at the dynamics economically at play in ohio. governor cakasic's great job of sheparding the ohio economy to account for state unemployment 7.2%, lower than the national average, it also undercuts mitt romney's message this economy isn't in turn around and time to get
for their own lives. >> 47% of the people vote for the president no matter what. who -- >> the obama campaign turned romney's secretly recorded remarks into a devastating new ad claiming the gop nominee's words under the families and veterans. >> so my job is not to worry about -- they should take personal responsibility. >> romney two days in a row out to link national security to the nati sluggh recovery. he's seizing on new economic data revising down the 2nd quarter gdp. >> this is not just one quarter. this has been going on now for years. china's growing much faster than we. russia's growing faster than we. our economy needs to be reinvigorated. >> but not all the numbers paint a gloomy picture. the labor department announced it undercounted nearly 400,000 jobs in 2011 meaning that 4.4 million jobs have been created since the president's inauguration. slightly more than the number lost in that same period. but the president said there's still measuring work to do. >> we're not where we need to be. not yet. we've got a lot more folks who have to get back to work. we've got a lot more wor
obama and get him to vote for me. >> he's down but not out. can he turn it around with an october surprise? let's welcome stephanie cutter. it's going reasonably well for you guys. it's been a good couple weeks, really since the conventions. you've got a bit of momentum but i guess you're not taking this too complacently. >> no, absolutely not, piers. you know, debates can be a pivotal moment in campaigns. i remember eight years ago when john kerry was getting ready to debate george bush, we were eight points down. coming out of that first debate we were tied with george bush. so there is an opportunity for mitt romney if he takes advantage of it next wednesday night, to turn the momentum around. he not only has to win this debate but has to change the dynamics in this race. we know he's going to show up prepared, disciplined and aggressive, even tim pawlenty said that he's as good as it gets when it comes to debating. but the question is whether or not he's going to be able to talk to the american people specifically about what his plans are for this country. that's been a huge d
still be deciding whether or not to vote for president obama or mitt romney in the upcoming election. venezuelan's president doesn't get to cast a ballot but he made his pick. >> if i lived in the united states i would vote for obama. >> not the kind of endorsement president obama would like. mr. chavez recognizes that as well so he prefaced the statement as well he hopes it doesn't hurt the president. well the venezuelan president also running for re-election himself. the vote will be held on sunday. >> reporter: when a position candidate challenged venezuelan president hugo chavez to a debate earlier this debate, chavez's reply was the eagle doesn't hunt the fly for a man who has been in power for 13 years, dismissing the opposition as feeble as part of his political strategy. but the equation might be changing. a 0-year-old governor is taking venezuela's political scene by storm. he's facing chavez in next sunday's presidential election while speaking with international media monday, he blasted chavez's cozy relations with iran and belarus. >> translator: what does venezuela have
of the places obama thinks it helps is they had a big swell in the youth vote last time. they had the support in the polls, but, wolf, frankly they think turnout could be down this time. sometimes college students get a bit distracted. one of the things, the president of the university of iowa democrats, her job is to tell all of her friends, all of the fellow students vote now. >> things come up. you can have an exam. you can wait until election day and not know where your precinct is. a lot of student haves to go to elementary schools, they don't have cars, they don't know where it is, any extra obstacle can keep students home on election day. early voting gives us 40 more chances to catch people. >> reporter: now, republicans traditionally don't invest as much time in early voting. but, wolf, as ewe know this comes as a time, this is one of the battleground states, iowa is, that's gone from a tie to at least breaking a few points in the president's favor. that has some republicans here and elsewhere in the country a bit nervous. they're worried about congressional races and other races. th
in ohio and early voting begins there next week, today president obama and mitt romney are crisscrossing that state, making five campaign appearances between them. this is day three of romney's bus tour. here he was just a short time ago in suburban columbus. >> i care about the people of america, and the difference between me and president obama is i know what to do and i will do what it takes to get this economy going. >> i'm joining now by chris kafinas and john braybender. gentlemen, good to see you again. >> good morning. >> okay, john. we keep saying this but i'm going to say it again. no republican has won the presidency without ohio. so what's mitt romney do now? >> well, thing that's right. i think he has to win not only ohio. i think e has to win probably virginia and florida as well. and i tlink's a couple of keys right now to mitt romney. you know, we saw in the primary. they said after the primary you can hit reset like an etch a sketch and change where you're going. think they're a little bit at that point where they've got to get a little sharper message. i think number on
voters, or he can just run as -- if you don't like obama, just vote for me. i'm not going to fill in the blanks for you. that's what he chose. >> you claim the gop has not come to grips with the bush years. >> that's it. when obama came on to office, republicans made two decisions. one was they would fight obama on everything unilaterally. they treat him as this extremist, aradical, far left president and they do that. the other thing was they had to explain how a guy like that could get elected president. what they decided is obama became president because george w. bush in their view wasn't conservative enough. >> he was not ideologically pure enough? >> he sold out the conserve it active cause and dpagave it a b name and gave rise it to obama. >> you called it the single most effective line of the convention. i want to play it for our audience and talk about it. here it is. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. >> what makes that such an effective line? >> that's just
many people come out successfully manage to cast a vote support mitt romney and support barack obama. jest an enormous amount of energy is turning out people who have decided they prefer one or the other but might not make their way to the polls. >> 36 days until the election. i did want to show these numbers from your piece. 43% of are watching very closely. that's for the decided. for the undecided and the people who may or may not go to the polls, who aren't those people who every election make their way to the polling place, do we have a good take on what get them there? is it an issue? is it a phone call? what motivates them in the end? >> so there is evidence on one of the most effective way to move people to the polls. to some degree it's human contact. having somebody knock on your door. particularly talking to a friend, somebody you may know. that really matters. if you can be convinced to sign some kind of a pledge in advance or say to somebody you're going to cast a vote, that really matters. trying to get people to take pledges saying one way or the other i do pledge i wi
is it in ohio? >> i need you to find people that went out there and voted for barack obama and convince them to join our team. together we'll strengthen this country and make sure it provides the jobs we need and keep it the hope of the earth! but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. mom's smartphone... dad's tablet... or lauren's smartphone... at&t has a plan built to help make families' lives easier. introducing at&t mobile share. one plan lets you share data on up to 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. add a tablet for only $10 per month. the more data you share, the more you save. at&t. bill: we're now seeing governor romney and paul ryan speaking at a rally there. that is westerville, ohio, near columbus, ohio, franklin county, right in the middle of the state. yesterday romney slamming the president on lib
romney were campaigning for votes. president obama stumped for votes in virginia beach. an area with a large military population. >> it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle-class. >> reporter: while mitt romney reached out to veterans in the critical northern virginia suburbs. >> we will make sure and restore our economy and put people back to work, get rising take home pay again. we are going to make sure we have a military that is second to none. i will do those things. >> reporter: right now the president has the edge in the key battleground states include vag va where he is ahead by 4 points. romney told abc's david muir, he is not deterred by the numbers. >> well i am very pleased with some polls. less so with other polls. frankly at this early stage. polls go up. polls go down. >> reporter: it is not really early. in fact, voting is already under way. voters in iowa started heading to the polls. next tuesday voters in ohio can do the same. that's why the president
from the obama campaign restored all early voting for all citizens. >>> finally you have heard republicans hurl words like socialist at president obama, right? a texas congressman went someplace else entirely. the world as it existed prior to the first world war. >> this is the beginnings, a massive beginning of a new ottoman empire that president obama can take great credit for. yeah, we're in big trouble here in america, but, wow, look what he has helped do in the middle east. a new ottoman empire. thank you president barack hussein obama. i'm not one of those who says he's not a christian. i know he's helped jump start a new ottoman empire. >> the only thing he knows about ottomans is where he puts his feet when he's falling asleep watching fox. >>> up next, conservatives want to unleash paul ryan and let ryan be ryan. we say bring it on. let's look at the real paul ryan right here on "hardball." you're watching it. the place for politics. >>> i'm milissa. >>> welcome back to "hardball." conservatives swoon for congressman paul ryan when he was chosen for the republican tick
of the campaign. why now? the obama campaign understands everybody voting on november 6th is antiquated. lots of people vote early including earl states. they're saying we need to get our message now. this is where the obama team believes, it's hard to prove these things, because everybody throws a bunch of numbers at you, we knock on this many doors, made this many phone calls. the obama team believes the grassroot organization they built in '08 is alive and well and kicking, and better than anything that mitt romney can have built in that same time. and that it will deliver their supporters to the polls in these early and absentee times and build leads for barack obama. we'll be monitoring it. i know you will be, too, monitoring what early vote looks like. remember, november 6th, yes it's election day, but lots and lots of votes will be cast before that. >> how does early voting change the dynamic if these are the committed base supporters, how does pocketing them early make a big difference? >> well the same way that you know the last five minutes of a game is critically important. if you'
president obama over romney but they don't turn up to vote for november. they stay home try. ing to get them to go to vote. doing it to get them to look at i look at sheryl crow and ashley judd and do what they tell me. >> eric: they're doing what they probably should do. they had the single women vote so they try to get the enthusiasm level up. get them out to vote. romney doing something similar with married women. women who are heading households. they have an ad. i see romney or the super pac ad having women who voted for president obama in 2008. who over the course of four years were having a hard time in the economy. things are going so tough. they are disillusioned now going to vote for romney. they are both going after the target. it's all fair, right? >> andrea: listen to what they are saying about republicans, greg. maybe not so fair. eva longoria refers to anyone who criticizes obama as extremist. sheryl crow said the tea party is stupid and they don't know what they're angry at. my personal favorite, gloria steinham said of republican women, i mean, they think they bet dore what
it is not due to the early voting program. but can he get ads on the ear pressed up to compete with the obama onslaught? neil: at the convention nassau lot of obama adds running six slate -- six /1. but they did seize the early initiative and but wonder if you are sitting on a lot of cash could you do not hedge your bets to flood the swing states with a lot of advertising? >> the obama campaign has been a mobilizing for a while. mitt romney is still in persuasion territory to convince middle-class voters he has a plan. i was no higher this weekend at the obama is already saying start voting. they are farther ahead. neil: they tried to seize the moment may be that is the good idea but what is the strategy lonesome and a vote early? in 1981 that of 30 now it is one out of three or likely to out of three. what is the strategy? >> to make the closing argument were hit voters the hardest as absentee voting begins. the president is stronger they have done a before. couple sides are doing it and pushing extremely hard and tracking it. this is not one side is doing and the other is not. i would tell
to head. as early voting begins, obama and romney adjust their closing arguments in the battleground of virginia. with up close and personal new ads before their big showdown next week. >>> inside job. tsa agents are supposed to screen your luggage. so, how did our stolen ipad end up in this officer's home? brian ross on hundreds of tsa officers caught red-handed. >>> and mona lisa mystery. you know the masterpiece. but could this be a second mona lisa? it was a claim that shocked the world today. so we put it to the test. >>> good evening. diane is on special assignment this thursday. we're going to tell you more about that in a bit. but we begin tonight with cyber warfare. the most extensive attack on american banks ever. launched from the middle east, happening right now. citigroup, bank of america, jpmorgan chase, wells fargo, u.s. bank corp and today, pnc. america's biggest banks, with millions of american families locked out of their accounts online. so, what does it mean for your money? who's behind it? how long has it been happening? officials across the government are tracki
? awesome. >> reporter: when it comes to early in person voting, there is added obama campaign emphasis on getting younger voters in the bank early. >> you may know in person early voting starts tomorrow in iowa. so basically for us here at the campaign, every day is going to be election day. >> yes, we can. >> reporter: johnson county, home to the university of iowa, led the state four years ago when 55% of ballots were cast early. >> the entire world is watching us. >> reporter: as president of the university democrats, catherine's job is getting her fellow students to vote now. >> fair to say not the most reliable if you just wait for one day? >> yeah, no. things come up. you can have an exam. you can wait until election day and realize you don't know where your precinct is. with early voting, it gives us 40 more chances to catch people. >> reporter: president obama is ahead as september winds down and early voting opens. >> anybody that knows football knows that fourth quarter is where most of the action happens. october will be big and if romney has a good start to the month, we'll
voted for this tax. president obama voted a few times to keep this tax. we think it's a wrong tax because you already paid tax on this. >> reporter: again, you can expect to her more on the debt, social security and medicare during tomorrow night's debate. be sure to tune in tomorrow night 8:55 eastern as megyn, bret baier and the entire fox news political team brings you complete coverage and analysis of the very first debate between president obama and governor mitt romney. fox news alert for you right now. this a news conference underway concerning breaking news in the presidential race. a pennsylvania judge decide tog puing to put a voter i.d. law on hold. this is a ruling that has upset conservatives already. some are calling it a victory for voter shaun. eric shawn is live with here. >> reporter: they are calling this decision a big win, the aclu. at pennsylvania when you show up at the polls in november you will be asked, or you could be asked to show your voter i.d., but understand this new ruling you don't have to show it. both sides indeed calling this a victory. it come
have president obama at 237 electoral votes right now. so that means the three really big swing states, ohio, virginia, and florida, they could be really killers for mitt romney if he can't find a way to wrestle two of those away from president obama. if the president manages to get florida and virginia in his column, he is over the top of 270 electoral votes. if he manages to get virginia and ohio, he is just two electoral votes shy. so in the electoral college map virginia is enormous and you're seeing that with the amount of money both campaigns are spending there and the amount of time both candidates are putting in. jon: looking at "real clear politics" average of the polls taken last week, president obama leads 4.6 to 45.1 in virginia. that leaves about 6% undecided. where do those undecideds go? >> yeah, this is the real key question because all of this, particularly in virginia will hinge on turnout. northern virginia has seen a population explosion. demographics which dictate there is advantage for democrats undoubtedly in that part of the state. the question then is for the o
. according to "the washington post"/abc news poll, 49% say they would vote for obama and 47% for romney. those numbers are unmoved from early last month. >> so nationally we're in the margin of error in this poll. >> all right. in the critical swing states, the president's lead grows to 11 points among likely voters. 52% to 41%. in ohio, a state where early in-person voting begins tomorrow -- >> wow! >> -- a new "columbus dispatch" poll shows the president leading 51%-42%. in august that same poll had the two candidates tied at 45%. >> at 45%. if you want to know how badly things have gone over the past month for mitt romney, how bad september was for mitt romney, just look at the "the columbus dispatch" poll. he's lost nine points in ohio. it's absolutely critical that he does change the narrative, he does turn things around. you know, we always talk about -- i've always talked about 1980, the final weekend, it's tied between reagan and carter. this isn't 1980 anymore. he's got to kick start it now because let's say he wins the final two weeks. he still loses the election. you can't ju
was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was bush's fault. is romney missing opportunity to go after obama on his record and misstatements, stories i hear out of politico for one is he focused more on mistruths in the debates and the campaign. is that a good strategy? >> it's really one of the few arrows he has left. no question about it. he won't win in election by attacking president obama. he has to give the american people a clear and cojent plan why he's better and a better bet to take. it's always a risk when you turn away from an incumbent president. americans have shown their willingness to do so. the carter election and the first george bush election when bill clinton got elected, but they have to have a reason. they have to have a reason. >> isn't obama's record a good reason? should not mitt romney be talking more about that record? >> he should, but he also has to couple that with why he would be different. what wou
barack obama, but are they going to get out and vote for mitt romney? i think -- mika, you know? and you were looking at them. it's the relatability issue. >> you can't tell anymore who they would vote for. it used to be pretty clear. i want to show you this sound bite. mitt romney is spending, of course, his third straight day in ohio. president obama heads to the state this morning. today's "new york times" is reporting that aides to romney say the republican candidate and running mate paul ryan will be campaigning together more often in the coming weeks, according to the report. the move underscores concerns that mr. romney is not generating enough excitement on his own and needs mr. ryan to fire up supporters that may have been evident during a campaign stop yesterday outside dayton. >> wow! that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan! isn't that something? wait a second. wait a second. romney, ryan! romney, ryan! romney, ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> oh. sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >
say, i think i'm going to vote for obama, that vote is not strong or locked in. some of those numbers that you guys were putting up just a little bit ago about the economy, and the barack obama and romney being close on handling of the economy and the state of the economy, i think a lot of those voters are sitting there waiting for one of these candidates to make a case to them why they would do a better job with the economy. i think they're waiting for mitt romney to explain to them why barack obama has failed in his handling of the economy. jenna: one of the things you wrote about in your editorial you say politicians, no matter what party, they see the economy in two ways. as a personal piggybank or as a mystery and neither will discuss it in public. what do these two candidates do during the very important debates, the first one starting next week? >> obviously barack obama does not want to talk about the economy while he was president. his one word explanation for his problem is, bush, george bush caused all of these problems. the, unfortunately, mitt romney is in some way saying
president obama and governor romney plan to woo undecided voters days ahead of early voting in the buckeye state. arthel: president obama and governor mitt romney descending on the battleground state of ohio today, the president taking his message to college students at two state universities, while governor romney targets work-class voters in major metropolitan areas. less than a week before early voting begins in ohio where does each candidate stand. bob cusack is the managing editor for the hill. good to see you. which candidate would you like to analyze first you pick. >> president obama, he has the lead in ohio and that has picked up. i don't think that is surprising because last week was the worst week for the mitt romney campaign. can romney still win ohio? yes. he's going to have to change the dynamic a little bit. why is ohio so important, the last eleven presidential elections if you win ohio you win the presidency. that's why these two guys are fighting over the state and down the stretch they are going to be in ohio a lot. arthel: let me jump in with specifics here, bob. as you
obama has a and the dnc a fierce get out the vote and early registrationrive and ground game. >> i don't thi ttar vooi t make the debates any less important. especially because those people who vote early in most places, the third of americans who will vote early, have made up their mind, they are the partisans, the strong republica or deat ao mter what happens in those debates they know how they're going to vote. i so agree with john that we look to those moments well, look to reagan saying there you go again. >> right. >> you know, or to h.w. bush looking at his watch. there are moments that can make a hugeferee d thitut of the question for mitt romney to pull one of those off, eecially because maybe we forget, but barack obama was not a terrific -- he got better, but he was not a terrific debater in '08. i think some interesti things could still happen. >> one thing about theiber a w i addition to, perhaps, romney losing is action. if it's all over now, six weeks of like it's all over, i think -- >> right. >> you're going to see all media including the liberal media's desireor aose
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